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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 4:44:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: breiter

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ORIGINAL: cortez_

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C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSXRUN.EXE -u -p /usr/local/bin/rxvt -- rxvt -ls


Doesn't work

Hmmm. I guess I don't know what "doesn't work" means. When I run that command above from a CMD shell or Start | Run or make a Windows Shell Shortcut (.lnk) it absolutely creates an instance of RXVT visible on my local X server logged in with my default shell.


"doesn't work" means that nothing appears on the screen when I tun it form the "Start-> run" box or a .lnk I tried different combinations believe me


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PSXRUN /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls -bg black -fg green -cr white -pr white -sr

Always generates a PSXRUN error dialog box. This is the behavior I would expect since the way you pass arguments to the binary being executed by PSXRUN is with the -- <binaryName> syntax.


Right. The same behaviour - the error box

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ORIGINAL: cortez_
When typed in the shell the only combination that works is:
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/usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls -bg black -fg green -cr white -pr white -sr

the -- rxvt switch messes it up.


OK. Now I'm starting to wonder if you are running this from a CMD shell or an Interix shell like KSH,CSH,TCSH or BASH. From an Interix shell running
/usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls -bg black -fg green -cr white -pr white -sr &
does start the rxvt session as expected
.

right. I was checking from the shell whether the rxvt actually works and it went fine except a message about missing font - maybe that's the issue?

All the other tries were from the cmd or windows .lnk or run box. Seems that when I try to pass arguments to rxvt it doesn't work from psxrun.

Maybe there's something to do with that missing font message I mentioned some posts above?


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Are you sure you are using PSXRUN? When it fails, what is there an error message and what is it?


Surely PSXRUN. No doubt. I use the same shortcut for rxvt 2.6.4 and IT WORKS FINE but after I update to 2.7.10 id doesn't appear on the screen. No error messages either.

< Message edited by cortez_ -- Oct. 10, '04, 4:45:00 AM >

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 8:49:50 AM   
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"doesn't work" means that nothing appears on the screen when I tun it form the "Start-> run" box or a .lnk

Huh. That sounds exactly like the behavior that I experienced when libXpm wasn't linked properly so it would only work when the LD_LIBRARY env variable was set--which doesn't apparently happen with PSXRUN.

Maybe you don't have Rodeny's latest build? Since (I don't think) the package version numbers haven't been incrementing, you might have to manually remove the old beta version to install the new one (which is what I did).

Try:
% pkg_delete rxvt-2.7.10-bin
% pkg_add ftp://ftp.interopsystems.com/pkgs/beta/rxvt-2.7.10-bin.tgz


< Message edited by breiter -- Oct. 10, '04, 8:51:54 AM >

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 9:07:05 AM   
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I'm using the rxvt-2.7.10-bin which I have downloaded form the ftp on friday :(

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 9:25:24 AM   
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Well I'm running out of ideas here.

Does this work from CMD shell:
POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls

You should get an RXVT window with POSIX.EXE taking over your CMD session in the background until you close RXVT. Or you might get an instructive error (I hope).

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 10:12:21 AM   
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Just a short note (coming back with a more systematic overview later
this evening): I think our Polish friend is completely right. Here at home
we got a Windows 2003 domain; jonsmi has no problems (being member of the
domain admin group -- I know, according to security guidelines he should not).

My young dog just got an account as a domain user, Brian's rxvt works, the latter
not. Making the dog (Felicia) a member of the local admin group, both rxtv's work),
but she (the dog) cannot change shells with the chsh utility, before she becomes
a member of the domain admins -- as far as I can see this applies to both rxvt's
(perhaps sudo could be the solution for chsh).

BTW: the chsh makes a call to net use, which -- according to my knowledge -- made
sense for stand-alone NT4 machines and NT4 domains, but no more for Windows
2000/2003 (that is, I have not investigated Windows 2003 outside a domain).

So I think a security issue has slipped into Rxvt 2.7.10. So my question to
Brian and Gregorio is: What are your rights on the machine, are they part of
a domain?

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 12:47:36 PM   
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> I'm using the rxvt-2.7.10-bin which I have downloaded form the ftp on friday :(

Trying doing an explicit "pkg_delete rxvt-2.7.10-bin" and then a pkg_add.
Because the beta directory isn't rolling version number things won't automagically get
updated with a "new" package because it has the older version number still.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 2:33:15 PM   
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I have completly deleted the old one and installed the rxvt-2.7.10. It is the new one for sure as I see the differences between the executables.

Im running this as a root beeing the the member of administrator group. Not using domain anyhow.

When trying the
POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls
from CMD I get:
quote:

c:\>POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls
/usr/local/bin/rxvt: error in loading shared libraries
libXpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


I think it's the constant problem with the shared library.

< Message edited by cortez_ -- Oct. 10, '04, 2:48:43 PM >

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 3:08:19 PM   
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okay, let's check a few other things then...
Can you do the following and let us know the result/output:
pkg_info | grep libxpm
objdump -p /usr/local/bin/rxvt | egrep "RPATH|NEEDED"
ls -l /usr/local/lib/libXpm*

thanks

< Message edited by Rodney -- Oct. 10, '04, 11:43:01 PM >

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 3:58:22 PM   
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quote:

Just a short note (coming back with a more systematic overview later
this evening): I think our Polish friend is completely right.

I was wrong. Used the wrong un-Rodneyfied version. Now, even my dog can log
into every machine and run rxvt 2.7.10 on every machine as only a domain user,
although she cannot change the shell right now, so she'll need to take part in
the Csh Lovers User Group Effort (aka cluge) course (I need as well, although
for other reasons -- in Norway you count as nothing if you don't post with Emacs
in the UNIX/Linux groups; seems like cluge is the admission ticket to the UNIX
world.)

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 4:02:40 PM   
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pkg_info | grep libxpm
objdump -p /usr/local/bin/rxvt | egrep "RPATH|NEEED"
ls -l /usr/local/lib/libXpm*


Here's my (working) config. I'm not an administrator.
% pkg_info | grep rxvt
rxvt-2.7.10-bin    rxvt (ouR XVT) - a color VT102 for the X window system
% pkg_info | grep libxpm
libxpm-3.4k.3-bin  Version 3.4k.3 of xpm for Interix 3.5.
% objdump -p /usr/local/bin/rxvt | egrep "RPATH|NEED"
  NEEDED      libXpm.so
  NEEDED      libX11.so.3.5
  NEEDED      libc.so.3.5
  RPATH       /usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib
% ls -l /usr/local/lib/libXpm*
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  +Administrators   72758 Mar 31  2004 /usr/local/lib/libXpm.a
lr--r--r--  1 root  +Administrators      11 May 26 23:57 /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so -> libXpm.so.3
lr--r--r--  1 root  +Administrators      13 May 26 23:57 /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.3 -> libXpm.so.3.4
lr--r--r--  1 root  +Administrators      16 May 26 23:57 /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.3.4 -> libXpm.so.3.4.11
-rwxrwxr-x  1 root  +Administrators  115510 Apr 16 00:58 /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.3.4.11


My hypothesis is that somehow Jon-Alfred and Gregorio don't have Rodney's build of RXVT 2.7.10 and are instead using the older beta that Jon-Alfred uploaded.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 6:08:22 PM   
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My hypothesis is that somehow Jon-Alfred and Gregorio don't have Rodney's build of RXVT 2.7.10 and are instead using the older beta that Jon-Alfred uploaded.

That's exactly what happened. My output is the same on all three Windows machines
now, as you present it. The reason is, that I once again tested your version --
and I forgot about the third box (which mainly runs Linux), and then I reinstalled
from the wrong directory.

However, for some strange reason, in order to let my dog use rxvt 2.7.10, it was
not enough to deinstall/reinstall, log out/log in, but I had to reboot. And then
everything was fine. Perhaps there is a connection, that you can kill the Interix
subsystem from within Windows, but you won't be able to start it anew without a
new restart. I really don't know, but your hypothesis holds true for my problems
in question and my hasty conclusion. -- Thanks a lot!

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 10, '04, 6:09:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cortez_

I have completly deleted the old one and installed the rxvt-2.7.10. It is the new one for sure as I see the differences between the executables.

Im running this as a root beeing the the member of administrator group. Not using domain anyhow.

When trying the
POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls
from CMD I get:
quote:

c:\>POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls
/usr/local/bin/rxvt: error in loading shared libraries
libXpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


I think it's the constant problem with the shared library.
quote:

When trying the

POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls

from CMD I get:

quote:

c:\>POSIX -u -c /usr/local/bin/rxvt -ls
/usr/local/bin/rxvt: error in loading shared libraries
libXpm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Aha! That error using POSIX is exactly the behavior that I got with Jon-Alfred's build of RXVT 2.7.10 before Rodney fixed it. What you are seeing is the error that PSXRUN is getting but there's no TTY to print the error out to when you use PSXRUN.

I really think that somehow you have the old version. If you do pkg_delete rxvt-2.7.10-bin and then pkg_add again with the FTP URL it should be fixed.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 11, '04, 4:12:25 PM   
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NOw it's OK today I've downloaded again the rxvt-2.7.10-bin from beta and it's OK.
It was VERY VERY confusing having different versions of software with the same numbering.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 11, '04, 8:34:12 PM   
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> It was VERY VERY confusing having different versions of software with the same numbering.

Which is why we don't normally do it!

Glad it got worked out.
So now, next, I will place it in the "live" 3.5 directory.
Since the Beta directory has shown things can get confused I'm going to
bump the version number up from 2.7.10 to 2.7.10a. This way there will be
no confusion. Last call for opinions (dogs included).

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 11, '04, 10:04:44 PM   
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I think all is well and ready to go. I do have a question regarding the transparency feature. For me, on Cygwin/X and StarNet Desktop-X, the -inheritPixmap "transparency" switch is unusable. What it really seems to do is reveal the hidden Root window--which happens to be a hideous black and white hatched pattern. You can't see other Win32 or X-Window applications through the "transparency" and you can't really read the text in the terminal.This, incidentally, was exactly the same behavior with aterm.

I'm wondering if people running Hummingbird X or Interop X get the same behavior or if Hummingbird handles this more elegantly.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 11, '04, 11:06:12 PM   
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Running through Hummingbird Exceed the background of the window gets snapped
to whatever is behind it. So if I move the window the pattern goes with it.
All text typed in is black blocks because the cursor map seems to get left
behind. Text o/p with 'ls' comes out okay.
So it seems to start better with Exceed then you've described. But I would have
thought the transparency would updateas the window is moved. Though I have to
state that it's hard to read what is in the window in transparent mode.

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RE: Announcing Rxvt v2.7.10 for SFU 3.5 - Oct. 21, '04, 7:52:05 AM   
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my missing font

I just noticed that StarNet has a download area for more fonts. Maybe your font is there.


http://www.starnet.com/support/extrafonts.htm

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