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 Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 17, '05, 1:06:42 PM
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heinz
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Not sure just what I did but the side-effect of attemting to repair a problem with IIS6/ASP caused my SFU to go into non-operating status. Opening a Korn or C-shell just hangs. I tried a re-install/repair via Add/remove Programs, which took most of a night and it failed trying to add/repair the managment console (I believe) and then back-tracked itself.
Of course at the same time the back-up I had from prior attemting IIS6/ASP repair turned out bad.
I'm hoping that it's a permissions problem or that something hasn't started. (Interix is started).
Any help/ideas/suggestion greatly appreciated.
Heinz
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 17, '05, 10:18:12 PM
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markfunk
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Interix is started _only_ if you see PSXSS.EXE running in the task list.
If PSXSS.EXE hasn't started, then chances are you've changed the registry
to disallow non-win32 subsystems.
In this case you need to re-enable the POSIX subsystem in the registry.
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 17, '05, 10:26:04 PM
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Rodney
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> In this case you need to re-enable the POSIX subsystem in the registry.
BTW: That info can be found in the FAQ's.
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 17, '05, 10:27:18 PM
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heinz
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Not running. Thank you.
Now to find the right place in the registry :-)
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 10:13:35 AM
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heinz
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Still no luck.
Confirmed that the registry entry exists as per FAQ's. It does, pointing to psxss.exe
POSIX.EXE shows up in the taskmgr when trying to start a shell but no psxss.exe
I'm assuming something (me) screwed up permissions perhaps. fixperms won't run as it needs the posix sub system I'm guessing.
Looking for more ideas :-)
I'm thinking uninstall/re-install next but would sure like to avoid it. Primarily because I'd like to find out what/where I screwed up so that I can avoid a next time.
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 11:33:22 AM
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Rodney
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Which version of windows are you running and which SP level?
Can you sent the outpput of running "fileinfo"? (it's a win32 program)
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 12:18:35 PM
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heinz
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Win Server 2003, Service Pack 1
I don't have fileinfo on that server. Is it safe to install from the Win98 Resource kit or is there another version I should be looking for?
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 12:36:01 PM
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heinz
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Found it (he says sheepishly :-)
C:\SFU\bin>fileinfo
/dev/fs/C/WINDOWS/system32/PSXSS.EXE 8.0.1969.1
/dev/fs/C/WINDOWS/system32/PSXDLL.DLL 8.0.1969.1
/dev/fs/C/WINDOWS/system32/POSIX.EXE 8.0.1969.1
/dev/fs/C/WINDOWS/system32/PSXRUN.EXE 8.0.1969.1
/dev/fs/C/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/PSXDRV.SYS 8.0.1969.1
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 12:54:47 PM
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Rodney
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In fixing up IIS you likely updated to SP1 for W2K3.
The correct version for PSXSS.EXE is 8.0.1969.2 for W2K3/SP1.
This is where things get grotty (yeah, that the real technical term).
If you can the easiest thing is to rollback (out of) SP1 because it
causes a couple of problems for SFU. One is that the subsystem won't run.
This can be fixed by applying a hotfix which you can only get through
MS support (PSS). But, the downloaded image of SFU 3.5 was updated quietly
a few months ago to include this fix (see breiter's comments about
this the other week). So you can either contact MS PSS to get the hotfix
or you can get a fresh download of SFU 3.5. If you get the "fresh" 3.5
then you can just move the updated PSXSS.EXE into place.
Now there's another problem with W2K3/SP1 when some actions are taken
in some shell scripts even with 8.0.1969.2 installed. A hotfix is being
worked on right now for this problem. Not everyone is experiencing this.
But certainly many are. I've been told the hotfix is due RSN. Only W2K3
is affected; 2000 and XP are fine.
So if you can rollback SP1 at least until the 2nd hotfix is out that
may be good. If you need SP1 then give 8.0.1969.2 a try.
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 1:00:15 PM
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heinz
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Thank you Rodney.
Here goes, my first attempt at a rollback :-))
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 1:24:12 PM
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heinz
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Pardon the lame question...
To rollback SP1, simply uninstall via Add/Remove Programs? or am I missing something important?
TIA
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 1:31:27 PM
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Rodney
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Correct.
You may need to read the descriptions carefully though because
the Service Packs are sometimes called a "hotfix" (e.g "Hotfix (SP5)").
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 1:37:14 PM
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heinz
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Thanks again Rodney.
Copying the psxss.exe from a fresh download didn't work :-(
fileinfo does show it as 8.0.1969.2 now but no shells yet so I'm going for the uninstall of SP1.
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 2:15:06 PM
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Rodney
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Sorry, I didn't give any details about copying over 8.0.1969.2.
Did you reboot after doing this?
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 2:20:19 PM
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heinz
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Yes I did.
What I did is:
download
expand the exe into a temp dir
took the psxss.exe and copied it to \windows\system32 after renaming the original
checked the dll's and none seemed to have changed.
rebooted
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RE: Shells hang - need to repair my SFU 3.5 - May 18, '05, 6:30:58 PM
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heinz
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Hopefully the end of this mess.
Uninstalling Sp1 didn't do it. Could be because of the earlier SFU repair attempt via Add/Remove.
Uninstalled SFU and re-installed using the latest download.
I think I'm on the way to full recovery. At least I can telnet in and get a shell :-))
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions.
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